Recovering a Neglected Site with Charles Joyner

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Have a site you were going to grow, but haven't done anything with it in months — or maybe years? It can be recovered!  

Charles Joyner joins us this week with a great case study on recovering a neglected site his brother purchased for $27,000 — and then it sat for many months without attention until all the revenues and traffic were gone.  Charles has recovered this site and is now earning $4,000+ per month with over 60,000 pageviews monthly!

A neglected site can be a goldmine — Google likes to rank content and URLs that have history — it can be easier to rank an aged site than starting from scratch.

Learn how he did it — and what you can do to recover a neglected site you have.

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Bryon Brewer: All right. Welcome everyone to the Building Online Empires podcast. Today, we are joined by Charles Joyner, who Charles is actually just a few miles away from me here outside of Dallas, Texas. And so we're gonna go through a little bit of his background and understand what he's been doing and a little bit about a growth he's taken a site, basically from scratch to almost 60,000 page views a month in a period of a year. So it'll be interesting to hear a little bit about how he's done that and what he's learned on the way. So welcome Charles.

Charles Joyner: Hello, Bryon.

Bryon Brewer: Good to see you again. So before we get into kind of what you've been working on and, and how you've had this, this success, tell us a little bit about your background and in, in how you got started into online business.

Charles Joyner: Yeah. So My background is in software and I've been doing it for years. And about 2018, my brother had bought a site and he was telling me, you know, Amazon affiliate marketing, Amazon really it's big. It's, it's huge. Right. And at the time I was working on different project I came from the video game background that I made apps and then I'm an application data and I'm focused on that. And he bought the site. I think it was generated about $800 a month. We paid about 27,000 for it. And so he got it and he tells me about it and then it just sat there. And so I just sat and sat and sat and pretty much lost all the traffic and all its revenue.

And he would tell me he needs to do something with it. And I would listen, you know but I wasn't really that interested. And then about January, February, 2020, when COVID hit it my business has already started to slow down a little bit. Right. So not gets foresee, y'all know this is some dunes coming here.

I looked at it again and I said, okay, you know what, maybe we can do that. So I would say At that point, I began to look at it and I didn't know anything about it. I'm not, I'm familiar with WordPress by I've just built some sites. And I can fumble at the time I could fumble around with it. But it looks doable and can kind of interesting.

So sort of watching a lot of videos reading a lot and the Cunningham videos, the fat stacks your videos. I started looking at things and started going, you know, actually I think this is, I think we can do this. And so we also thought if we could figure this out and I'm, I'm a process person, if we can figure this out, we can do, we can make several sites. And then at the end here, let's just figure it out and and go. So I officially jumped in the pool in July of 2020. That's when I officially, I did my background and did all the research and lots of, you know, lots of stuff. And July, 2020, I had jumped in. And then at the time the site was about 300 page views per week.

Bryon Brewer: Oh, wow. So you came from a technology background. I think we have a lot of who start in technology and end up getting into online businesses, SEO, digital marketing. Do you think there was any aspects of your technology background that helped you with this? Or was this basically starting from scratch?

Charles Joyner: It probably did. I mean, everything that we use online, there's a tool that has a lot of services out there. And the understanding of how it works. Just the understanding of it probably did, but I don't think you have to be high tech to do this. It's, there's going to be a barrier to entry when you first start, because if you don't know anything about WordPress, you'll need to know something about WordPress. And I use online tools like SEMrush and other things, and anything you get into your app to go study it. You're going to have to learn what it does. Right, but I think it did, but I don't think you have to have.

Bryon Brewer: Okay. Yeah. I, you know, it's the technology background is, is helpful. I can show you the basics, but a lot of this is, is really needed around SEO. So, so you took a site that kind of had, had crashed and. Your job was to recover it. Right. So, you know, tell me, kind of tell me how you started, you know, you mentioned you, you watched lots of videos online, you read up, you kind of studied the industry looked at case studies.

So where do you w what did you do to start with a site? Cause I think we've all have sites that we bought and had good intention. And then life happened and we got really busy and maybe we bought too many sites and we've got a few on the back burner and we're wondering, what should I do with these?

So I'd just get rid of 'em. Should I shut them down? Can I sell them? Are they worth anything or should I try to recover them? And then if I do. Where do I start to start trying to recover a site? Where did you start?

Charles Joyner: Okay, so kind of the very beginning. So the site when, when I got it was it had a ton of old plugins. WordPress was completely outdated. Hadn't been touched, you know, what that looks like when you were plugging in spring, right? It was just a big red light. And I also ran it on GT metrics and it got straight F's. So I, when I personally, I did, I cleaned up the site or I should say I cleaned it up and sped it up and it was the very first thing.

So I got rid of, you know, all these plugins, you gotta figure out which ones are what. You know but I think it went from maybe 30 plug-ins and maybe a little exaggeration, but a lot of them down to almost eight. So I got rid of a lot of plugins and then I put it on a faster server. I use green geeks.

I love green geeks, but also very nerdy and I'm nerdy and their support is excellent. But all my sites now are on green weeks. Absolutely fast. And then also later I use CloudFlare and I have a pro account with them, like $20 a month. And also there was no Google analytics. There's no Google search.

There was no Google anything. Right. Get all that taken care of. Funny is, is I applied for Google adsense. And that's when I learned, but all my content was crap. At that point I learned I had never read an article. I had to sign, I knew all this stuff, whatever. I never picked up an article and Google AdSense basically sends me an email. I've got to find it, but it's, it's well-written but it says all of your content is junk and we're not going to give you an account. And so that's where I was. I had a nice site. Everything's running fine. My speed's going, everything's fine. And you know, read my first article and it was like opening program, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

And I was like, oh, this is awful. Right. I got 183 of those articles like that.

Bryon Brewer: So you had 183 articles on the site when you started? Yes. Okay. And Google had since rejected you, so basically your first steps were to do kind of clean up at the site site speed, remove plugins. Kind of that kind of stuff.

And then did you, do, did, did you tackle content next or did you do kind of technical SEO, run it through an audit and clean it up? Or what did you do? Yeah, so

Charles Joyner: That's what I knew. I had a big project in my hand and I know that I had a big problem, but when I knew the content was bad, but I needed to know more than just bad content and what Google told me, I need to know that the insights I've got, so what the problems were.

And so that's when I dug into that found a simple. And I've dug into that. And they have a ton of videos and classes. I wouldn't say I watched everything, but I watched the gut, the bulk of it. Right. Really understood the software. And that's when I got my first SEO perspective. This the, the site was missing.

It had no meta descriptions on every article. Plus all my learned Yoast is all red faces are great faces on everything. The site content was missing a lot of keywords, similar. There's a nice little thing called I think it's called a page audit and you can kind of it gives you ideas, whatever you needed to see, it just lit up with.

Bunches of broken links. And many other things, SEMrush has kind of a, kind of a health audit, a little circle there with a number on it. And I think it was around 50 something when I got it and with some work and speed and whatever I got up to mid nineties. But at that point I knew what, what what the project and problem was.

And I knew at that point is gonna be a pretty big project to fix.

Bryon Brewer: Gotcha. Okay. So did you ever think at that point it would be better just to start from scratch? You know, what, what led you to believe that, Hey, I can take this site and get it to 60,000 page views?

Charles Joyner: Well, so from my research and stuff, I learned that an article that's already been there for awhile baked into, if you update it, you get the results back fast that a new content. So my initial thought was I'm going to take about 50 or so articles and I'm going to optimize them and get them in as fast as I can. And then see if what I'm doing is working. So. Basically, that's a whole process. I'm an air table person. So I'm a bit of a nerd like that.

You can do this, you can do stuff in, in, in Google sheets, but they'll never do when a project managers just to move in. So I set up an air table and you know, the first thing I had to do was get all my URLs. So you can get that. You can get all your URLs from your site map or use some plugins that will do that.

And the name of the article and kind of got all of my articles into it. Into an air table and then since SEMrush will offer those on-page keywords that are missing kind of ideas. I put a liquid that in the air table kind of suggestions. And there's, you know, air table has all these records.

So each record I could assign different things to it. And I got all that prepped out. I mean officially my each record had the name of the site, the URL, what category it's in, is it, you know, bicycles or whatever tag, WordPress, tags and categories, and so forth. All these things listed for each 183 times.

And then and, and, you know, both sides of my air tables. Once you get all this stuff set up, you can do things like change all your site from 2021 to 2022, by just adding in a field setting a filter. And then you've got your guys too often and they'll go do it. And before, you know, it everything's changed or you can bold all your internal links, you know, you could just do all different kinds of things once you have it all set up.

Bryon Brewer: Yeah. And I think what you mentioned there a minute ago about existing content that's been around for a while is easier to rank than a brand new article Ahrefs had a study, I think it was a month ago or so. Where something like 80% of the results that are on page one of course, Ahrefs has this data points that billions and billions of pages of information.

So 80% of those that are on page one are content that's been around for five years or longer. So so it was just a good point that. It can be easier, even though it seems a little tough to take an existing site with content and get it to rank through optimization improvement, then it can be to just start from scratch.

Right, right. Even if it's an expired domain, it's still it's content that's been there. So

Charles Joyner: totally. And I watched it happen. I mean, it was real. And and I didn't know at the time I just, I heard these things, you know, a lot of stuff on the internet you hear? So I can verify that you take existing content, optimize it. You will get a pretty quick turnaround on get the index in your still, if you do a good job on it. Yeah, absolutely.

Bryon Brewer: So you're basically doing a content audit using air table. Put that content in there. And then you mentioned having some, you know, like change in 21 to 22 or updating the articles like that.

And, and having, having some of your guys to do that. Can you w what help did you have, tell us about your team? Who, what kind of skills were you looking for? What did you do yourself and what did you outsource?

Charles Joyner: So I ended up creating a team two different types of members, team members. One, I call a writer and then when I'd call an editor and obviously the writers write content and the editors do really, I morphed them into kind of the multiplayer person as a writer they would take so in that table and they would take, make sure they would write in my existing keywords that I wanted in the article. And then what I would do is I'd create a group of tasks for each rider and assign them that artifact. I basically have four different types of articles. I have a how to article, which is basically how to do something informational.

It's more of a, you know, specific on a subject, like what are the different types of bicycle tires? You know, informational buyer's guides and that's basically your best of our picks. Best 10, whatever it is. And then what I also call a single buyer's guide just one, one piece. And as a writer on assignment group tasks like to make sure that the, they have the H one H twos and threes in there they won't like, like for a buyer's guide.

I want product descriptions. I want product pros and cons and proposal cons. I would just have them go over. Amazon and read the reviews. Right. Great spot to find out what people are saying. And then also all the times I put in specifications, like weight size, stuff like that in there. And then that was my writers and I would set them up with tasks.

And then the second part, the editors. So the writers, if you're mentioning systems that you have upcoming I'm in progress. Well, the editors would take that, put it back in, in progress, and then they would go through and do their set of tasks. And there's actually 14 tasks that an editor will, will touch on on my, on one of my articles and that like, like they might split split paragraphs up.

I don't want more than two sentences for each, for the mobile reviews on each paragraph. That had two to three internal links, two to three external links and a video link. You know, all texts at any of the images that are all, all, all texted correctly. A lot of details in there properly WordPress categorized for my, you know, testimonies and my article, my blogs, and so forth and tag.

But there's a lot of things they do for each one. And so I would from, from writing from taking that, that from writing to editors, it's a lot of processes, but I kind of built a machine and. I initially did every single one of those things myself, because I didn't want, I wanted to understand the process.

I wanted to know how to optimize those processes and on, on each task that you would sign somebody. I went in and I love loom. I don't know if you've heard of loom, but I love, and I basically credited every time I have a task, I would create a loom and do it. So they at a question how to do it. And that kind of helped me onboard people.

And I eventually would learned my credit a, a starter kit like Onboarding into my environment. My environment is slack and air table, but they would go through kind of training and class. Right. They pass those things and so forth. So I created this kind of this machine and I haven't even started creating content yet.

This was just optimizing. And by the end of that, I'll have it here. So July. 2020, December 27th, 2020. I went from 300 a week to twenty seven hundred and ninety six. Right. So that was the jump from optimizing. So when people say, does it work or not, we're discussing that I can show you it went right just like that.

Bryon Brewer: What were you doing? Were you optimizing. Existing articles where you, where you trashing any content? What, tell me about that. Yeah.

Charles Joyner: So let me just tell you the articles were trash. Okay. So maybe I'm using the wrong word, Bryon let's just say I rewrote. A bunch of articles because every single product on Amazon was bad and outdated and on the text was bad.

I think there might've been some kind of creativity sitting there for the person writing it to start with, but there wasn't much left of that when we were done. And I typically like to have about 2000 words for information on how. And a single product and like about 4,000 words or a buyer's guide.

And so that, that we did all that. And then I had all those keywords, I make sure they're plugged in and all that work. And I was pretty amazed. I mean, I basically had. I get to not personnel, but I ended up with I went through a lot of people to get my team. I went initially I went through a Upwork and got them and I went through a lot of people.

If I would have everybody that would write for me, I would have them write 3 articles. Because you can get away with one, but it's hard to get away with three and if they were good, I move them into my environment. So it, and then we start there. So I had, I had to pay for those articles, by the way, if someone writes junk, it never goes to my site.

And it's a cost. But if you do that, you'll end up with, you know, pretty good team.

Bryon Brewer: So you know, when you look at it, you had 183 articles. You optimize those how much new content.

Charles Joyner: So when we had that success immediately, I'm like, I'm on, I'm on top of the world. Right? So in January of 2020, I went full blown new content mode.

I already had the team, right. I already have the processes. Right. And similar, there's a nice, a keyword tool that you can use in there to get your stuff. So I had all this. And I had all the riders. So I went full on new content mode and I basically had my, I had my Upwork team and then I had my, I actually also went to Textbroker and I can tell you that with Textbroker you gotta pay to play for that.

And what I mean by that is, is you kind of write these, you kind of write these creative briefs. And you throw them up and then people can take them. Right. And you can, in that creative brief, you can choose, you know, what what skill level they are, you know? And what I found with, with them is I love those guys that have four plus ratings are awful, but you got to pay for the article regardless.

Right. But what's nice is you can kind of favorite them and put them into a group. So over time you, you can pay to have this. And then after awhile I had about seven or so writers over there that were good. Right. And to me, a good writer is someone that puts a little energy into it. You know, there's, it's a little bit of maybe some slang out a little bit of work, and it was words in there, some feeling a little bit.

And I had this group, so I had about seven Upworks and about seven text brokers on that, by the way kind of the way I would do it is I would buy my KGRs from you. In our great, and basically I would take those KGRs. By the way I trained all this, those editors were my guys. Once I do it, I'd say, now you do it.

But that's the way my mind works is just trade it out, turn it out. So I'll take those KGRs. And then I would go through and I have internal works that I use. I don't, I don't know if the right words, but I would create pillars of content and Reese. And what that means to me is like bicycle tires is a pillar, right.

And I would go through your KGRs and I'd want all of the ones that go together that would link together, make a ring I want to like content to link to Lego is what I call it internally. So it all goes together. So I handpicked 50 to a hundred out of those on that. And then I'll make sure all of them are Lego mode.

Because if at that time I had a 99% bounce rate. And when I came out of that, I was an 81%. So I'd almost had a 20% drop in bounce. But if you have Google sees as an authority, that if you have people clicking around your site, that you have something interesting. So it raises your authority. It does all these good things for you.

Plus if you have ads, it's another serving of ads and so forth. So I'll take your KGR. Pillar then and read them and then have him have them written. I also bought content from Human Proof Designs, by the way. Great content. I think I bought 50 articles from you. You guys did a great job. So at that time I was like mass content, Textbroker writer content producers.

Right. And I think I added about 700 articles between January 2020 to April 2020 somewhere like there by 700 or

Bryon Brewer: so. What do you got up to? What about a million words of content or, yeah. All right. And so KGR, this is the keyword golden ratio. Keyword research method. So you you've got the KGR packages from Human Proof Designs.

And can you, so did you just use KGR did, can you tell us any other hints around keyword research that you use?

Charles Joyner: Yeah, so I would use KGRs and basically the process, this process of creating an article from a long tail keyword all the way through, get it published with, through editors and all that kind of stuff is I called my mojo right. So my mojo is get the KGR and then Semrush says a nice content creative tool that you can have in there, a yellow, be a pay a little more for it, but it will generate some keywords around that long tail that are relevant to that. And I would take those and then also some different lines in that you can just kind of do it over and over.

And I would get a group of keywords that are really going to hit that my strategy was to take an underserved content line from a KGR like you guys provide, and I want him to go after the bigger ones. Right. So I can just take a little bit of that. So I kind of joke internally, but I, I believe I could write, I could go after the, the article is going to be pizza, right.

Is great. Pepperoni's but I can turn it into a dishwasher page. Right? So like my keywords and I still exaggeration there, but you can kind of manipulate the content to kind of get a better, a bigger pool in there. So I'll just take your KGRs and then I'd run through some keyword tools that Semrush.

And I grabbed those and I'd take them over. And in my air table had my writers and I wanted all these keywords written. Does that content catch him?

Bryon Brewer: Very cool. Yeah, that's a great story. So tell us, what did, what's your plans going forward with the site? What are you working on next with it? And, and kind of, what are some lessons learned? Some struggles that you had in building the depth to what it is. Yeah.

Charles Joyner: The credit content and we're there's, there's monthly revenues from ads. I'll tell you that some lessons I've learned on ads is so basically Google I eventually reapply for Google ads since I, and I, and I got approved.

And I would say that Google AdSense pays okay. There's all cases about 30% more than you'll adsense. And then when I pass 50,000 views page views, I went to Mediavine and Mediavine pays about 20% more. Thinking about as though look is it will completely crash your secure, your page speed.

Right. It's just a horrible thing. And then the Mediavine, but their support is good. I always had a a hundred percent good experience with support. And Mediavine it's very fast. Right. I don't have any very little page speed. So, so what was interesting is along the way I noticed that like, Revenue was increasing with traffic.

Right. So but I, I noticed that the, the the Amazon revenue was not, it was kind of flat, right? All these people running content and all this stuff. Right. And so I know it was kind of flat. So then I started digging into that and I as a nerve, you know, you start digging around and looking for these things.

And I set up a custom event in Google analytics. I could see that I want to know the traffic from my website to Google, and I can see the traffic going over there. And then if you know anybody going to Amazon reports we can see the clicks and those two didn't match. So I wasn't obviously getting credit for a lot of these things.

So I sat down again using air table. I realized I had about 112,000 links on the side of that. And I had two people and I said, the rear table said, go click on every one of these and find out what's wrong. Right. And that doesn't last very long, because at some point it looks like mush and nobody can do that.

No human being can do that. Right. It very limited time. So I basically, at that point I wrote as a nerd, I kind of wrote a little piece of software that went and looked at. And and I found all these issues sort of having, and then as a nerd, I wrote software to fix those things. So basically in a very short time, I fixed them kind of all, all at one time.

And I knew that I could fix those links, all those Amazon links that are broken I'm going to make more money right then. Right. And I, and I immediately, I saw. About my Amazon report. I can show you the analytics. I actually track the KPIs and all that. And I can see to me like a spoon, just like that straight up.

Right. And I'm like, ah, there we go. Now. And then of course my Amazon revenue took off and I actually it works so well. I actually turned it into a product it's not out yet. It's called link money. If anybody wants to check it out, LinkMoneyApp.com. But basically it will automatically fix all these problems for you.

And it's just amazing, but my, I guess my, my biggest lessons or taken out of this is don't write crap content. Don't allow crap content. Google is getting smarter than ever. Right. And a lot of these articles can be around forever, or we call them evergreen. I believe it was the word. And just take the time, do it right.

And you'll pay benefits. I will tell you kind of like it's about $27,000. The site was bought for four in 2018, lost off money. And then I put about $12,000 into it starting in January. Right. And it took the site to almost four grand a month. Right. So that's, that investment is excellent. Right. And so we would take all of that content that money and put it right back.

And the site right now, I believe I have to check. I think it has 817 articles and we're looking to make, make you more, we've got to figure it out

Bryon Brewer: income stream. That's going to quickly pay back that 12 K. And then from there, it's just going to be

Charles Joyner: grown. It's already paid back, Ryan. Yeah. I just keep putting it back in.

You know, let's go to 2000 articles. Right. We, we were actually, you know, what I'm just doing is I'm trying to pick pillars that I can create new content, like, you know, what are those pillars to choose? So we choose them. So you'll probably be hearing from me soon. Come get some more KGRs and we'll do that.

What did that process again? You know, probably going to add another seven or 800 articles to it. This.

Bryon Brewer: Excellent. Yes. So David's gonna want a sight back. I think.

Charles Joyner: Well, we have a business field now, so yes. He's pretty convinced that now, right. That, that we know what we're doing and you know, the person putting as a nerd in David's an excellent business guy.

And so we track a lot of data because there's a lot of assumptions you can make in this kind of stuff. And we want to, we wanted to track every single increase, how we got it, what we did, I'm a documenter. So what those processes were and then video those processes great. The onboarding, you know, for our team members.

So create a real machine. I mean, right now I can create most of my writers can write between five and seven articles. a week. And I've got about, let's say let's just call it a solid 14 and I can span on that. So let's do the math, how fast you can create content content. There's a lot of content and pretty reasonably priced too.

I I've got writers that are excellent. That cost me $20 an article right now I'm talking about top line. And then I think my most expensive person. Is a hundred dollars an article and they write, I have them write some buyers, guides, big, long buyer's guides. That sounds like a lot, but that buyer's guide is going to make you some money right down the road.

So, and I don't use them at all that often, but also times come in and go, this is a specific thing, and I want a beauty piece. Right. And this guy is just amazing, right. Beautiful piece, right. Forty-five hundred 4,700 word article. And then I take that you know, just kind of use them from time to time, but my range is usually around 20 to $30.

Bryon Brewer: So are you using any tools like Frase.IO or surfer or you kind of got your own process for figuring out the length of the article and optimizing

Charles Joyner: it? Well, I, I dug into Frase and I used that, bought their tool about their AI tool with as well. And I messed around with is I wanted to be familiar with it.

You had actually had mentioned it a long time ago and I wouldn't check it out at that point when I bought a service and I had it for about six months and I was screwing around with it and I like it. So I don't really care if they use Frase or not. I don't mind. I know one of my, some of I know one for sure does.

And there's some really cool things and Frase that I've come up with that I like, I like the fact that it gives you kind of ideas. Of content. Then you can throw those into your becoming your creative brief and given information and kind of rewrite it. I haven't liked the AI tool now from, as, from someone who watched star Trek, my AI tools like make me an article 2000 links on butterfly, and I want it to come out with images and links and everything.

It is not like that. So but I think it's the future. And I think they're putting time into it. To make it better. Cause I've seen it. I kind of saw it grow over time, going to get a little better stumbling at first and now it's getting better. What I want is from a writer, I don't mind them using those kind of tools is I still want that personality in there.

I'm not just blah right? People don't read that. And by the way, I bumped all my font sizes up on my site to 20. I think you a 16, just because we're a little bit bigger. And if you track your analytics almost everything's coming from a mobile phone, so I'd make sure that it's spaced out and big enough and looks nice.

First on a mobile phone. Second on a PC.

Bryon Brewer: Yeah.. So when you get to the size site, you have 800 plus articles. You mentioned this link money app that becomes a challenge, especially taking on a site that. Already has lots of content that you've got to update and change. Yeah. So link money is basically an app that's going to go through and I don't want to reveal all the details cause then know you're, you're about to launch that, but basic is going to help you manage all the links, update those links and make sure your Amazon. All your hands-on links are perfect.

Charles Joyner: Yeah. So it's and this was the biggest revenue hit a boom. And I had, because I remember the ad revenue was going up with, with traffic. It just goes up. And when, when I fixed my Amazon links, all of a sudden I got really hit. I don't want to say what site is, but I have some big, so some of my articles have sell really big, expensive.

Right. And when those sell a lot of commissions, right. Not everything, but there's some. And so when I started realized on actually selling those, so what link money does it basically goes through? And, you know, let's say you have a thousand page website, I don't know, 200 you know, whatever thousand, whatever it is.

And you're going to get the QA a lot of leaks, but what ends up happening is those links go back. Those links go for a four. You have you, if you're like me, you have a lot of contractors working on your site and they forget to put the store code in there. Or maybe even they put the wrong link in there.

It could just be a social link. Like maybe they were searching for pool equipment and they actually put the pool comment link in there. Link money will go through. And it will first scan to make sure I show you all the store codes or missing store codes you have on your site, which is important because I always thought that I had store codes that weren't mine.

I suspected it. And I think with and I did. And so how did that happen when a lot of people on my side and, and stuff, but why not throw one of their store codes in there? Right. Get a little money. So it's a lot of peace of mind, but it'll tell you all of it. And then obesity change every single one of 'em out.

Right. It'll also do the Amazon shortlinks. Some people have used that in the past. That'll convert all the Amazon shortlinks to a regular affiliate links, if that's what you want to do. And there's a lot of things. It'll tell you all the problems that you're having with that. So if you go through and do all of that with link money, first of going to do a lot of it for.

But there are some things you're going to need to do. Cause a bot and my AI can't tell exactly what you meant by it. If it's not much. Also I have a revert, let's say you say it like I sell the site to you and then you put your store code in it. So it's sitting in your inventory and then as you're going to sell it and sell it to a customer you can immediately turn all over to there.

So it's not one big movement, but up something happened. I don't want it. You can revert back right back. And so they can put it right back the way it was for any reason. So it's, it's, it's, it's a tool built by someone who does this and I'm completely anal Bryon about this kind of stuff and details.

This thing is exactly for us. It does nothing more and nothing less than fixing all your Amazon links.

Bryon Brewer: Yeah. I'm anxious for you to get that release because we you know, at Human Proof Designs, we buy multiple sites every month, sometimes. 200 or more articles and yeah, we do spend hours cleaning up and fixing links and your tool is a little different, cause it's not going to just tell you what's broken.

It's going to actually go through your site and fix it. So looking forward to that and we're very cool. Charles, appreciate your time today. Very cool story about your site. So and with link money coming out, so we'll keep an eye on. I appreciate your time

Charles Joyner: today, Charles. Well, Brian, I want everybody, I'll take a moment here to shout out.

Bryon runs a great business and I do business with him and you should do business with him. Everything that they've ever done is quality. And I do appreciate people like you, that actually pay attention to you. You care, right? And so if you need something for websites or KGR or content, you'll even make your whole site for it, if you want one, right.

And go to Bryon he's really good. I appreciate you.

Bryon Brewer: Yeah, I appreciate that. Thank you, Charles. Thank you.

Charles Joyner: Take it easy.

2 thoughts on “Recovering a Neglected Site with Charles Joyner”

  1. Very useful interview.
    Do I understand this point right? You have one pillar article (money post with beginner guide around 4500 words). And then take the KGR and then have one keywords posts from each one of it to support the pillar. For example, if you get 600 keywords and 400 of them are useful for the money post, do you have 400 posts to support the pillar?

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